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Until the webmaster or someone else knowledgeable can supply what's needed to let me get the forums (q.v.) working, the wiki can use pages in the "project talk" namespace for discussion of desirable improvements that relate to more than one page. Here's a discussion starter that was added to my talk page but would be better answered by people who have been NZGS members for a few years. I'll offer a tentative response to each below it, then look for others' responses and for additional suggestions. Robin Patterson 05:29, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
Hi Robin
Please tell me which of these you think are worth putting some effort into:
- I have a bunch of old newsletters - could scan to PDF format and put on site as "historical documents" if thought worthwhile.
- I have some interesting problems on cards and books from Japan (but may be copyright I suppose) - do we want some problems on the site?
- I started a book and kept some records from 1987 to 1989 of tournament results in NZ. Are these useful? (Ak, Wn, NZ etc)
- I have some old game records (just hand written on go board sheet) from 1980s - are any of these worth posting? (e.g. Kyle beating me up in Go Kichi challenge).
Regards Ray
Old newsletters
PDF would be OK if easiest; OCR would allow searchable and copiable text and links so that other pages (including some rather empty "year" pages) could be more easily enhanced. Robin Patterson 05:29, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
- I have done one to PDF format but not including OCR and it looks OK, although the older ones might be a bit rougher (you should see some of the stuff we got sent done on typewriters!). I don't want to do OCRing as it is too time consuming and so much of the newsletter is tables and pictures and diagrams anyway. However the site will not allow a PDF file to be loaded - is that what the sysop thing is partly about? RayTomes 18:50, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
Ah! PDF works on some MediaWiki sites, but maybe this one hasn't advanced far enough. Fixing it would need the webmaster's attention (like a number of other enhancements that have been mentioned on other pages). So we can settle for JPG. Robin Patterson 20:03, 7 August 2008 (PDT)
Problems
We already have the problem of the squares, thanks to Kami Kaze. The sky's the limit - unless this website costs noticeably more to run if it has more content. Robin Patterson 05:29, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
Tournament results
We have several - but that area is glaringly incomplete except for the list of winners, so (subject to the costs problem) why not? Once again, text is best if the scanner can produce it. Robin Patterson 05:29, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
Game records
Even better than problems, I guess. Do they come in a more compact form than the ? Robin Patterson 05:29, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
Mass deletion of junk pages - reasons and a few alternatives
is probably something you should have. Only the webmaster could install it, but then any admin could use it.
An alternative for the webmaster, or another extension that works slightly differently but could cover cases that "Nuke" doesn't, is .
You could then make easier inroads into reducing the junk pages so that the website costs a little less.
There are upgraded versions of MediaWiki that allow another type of page protection, so that registered users have to have been registered for several days before they can edit anything.
Alternatively, go for full protection of every worthwhile page so that only administrators can edit them, and give "admin" status to all genuine members of the Society so that they can edit everything. Leave a "new contributors" page for anyone to edit, where new members (and genuine foreigners from sister clubs and associations) can ask to be given admin rights (and you can check their credentials somehow, e.g. with a quiz.)
A more radical alternative is to migrate to Wikia.com, which is free and virtually spam-free, though you do have to put up with advertisements at top, side, and bottom (but less if you are signed-in). Small licensing complication is that this wiki is still on the old GFDL license, not quite the same as CC-BY-SA, the one now used by Wikipedia and Wikia. Probably nobody would care too much, but it would be desirable to get current authors of decent pages here to agree that their contributions could be under the new license. Then you copy over all the decent pages and close this site. (He would say that, wouldn't he, because he loves Wikia!)
Robin Patterson 04:08, 23 March 2013 (PDT)
Wikia site has been started
As I've just told Corrin in an email, I've started the Wikia process so that you can all see what it really might look like: - if you feel like registering, things would be easier in some ways if you used the same user name as you have here, if it's available. But tinker anonymously if you like. Robin Patterson 11:49, 26 April 2013 (PDT) - 0649 NZST
I hope that you notice that there's less advertising when you register and log in - or that you don't mind much either way.
Now - with more work done since early this morning after two social calls - it's a bit more organised. There's a template you can use to link almost any page of the Wikia site to the page of the same name here if there is a matching page. It's {{Go.org}}, and you should add it at the bottom. You can do that in one click if you can find the appropriate green icon in the right-hand panel. It includes a note drawing attention to the different publishing licenses. (That's "licences" in Kiwi English.)
Nobody is obliged to have any of their work here copied to the Wikia site. But our licensing already allows your work to be copied to any GFDL site, with proper acknowledgment of source.
If you who would like someone to copy your work from here to the Wikia site, please check that you are logged into this site, find your user page, click the Edit button, go to the bottom of the text, and type or paste the new template: {{Wikia}}. Follow it with your timestamp (either typing four tildes - ~~~~ - or clicking the "Signature" button, second from the right of the row of editing aids above the edit box). When you Save the page, it will say that you agree to have your work on this wiki republished on the Wikia, and that you understand that contributions there are under the slightly different "Creative Commons" licensing regime (used by Wikia and Wikipedia).
If a page you want to copy has no editors other than yourself, you can copy it over without any problems (preferably after registering and logging in over there). If there are other registered editors (apart from vandals), you need their permission too. Check their user pages for the template I mentioned in the previous paragraph. There is already one on my page. Or check the category that all such "consenting" pages are in: Category: Users agreeing to publish on Wikia. See for a little more detail.
If anyone is happy to have some work thus copied but prefers to withhold some, please tell me so that I can devise a consent that applies to only single pages.
Robin Patterson 04:09, 27 April 2013 (PDT)